Told you it was a tax scam

Scientists Call AP Report on Global Warming ‘Hysteria’

Tuesday, December 16, 2008

Scientists skeptical of the assertion that climate change is the result of man’s activites are criticizing a recent Associated Press report on global warming, calling it “irrational hysteria,” “horrifically bad” and “incredibly biased.”

They say the report, which was published on Monday, contained sweeping scientific errors and was a one-sided portrayal of a complicated issue.

“If the issues weren’t so serious and the ramifications so profound, I would have to laugh at it,” said David Deming, a geology professor at the University of Oklahoma who has been critical of media reporting on the climate change issue.

In the article, Obama Left with Little Time to Curb Global Warming, AP Science Writer Seth Borenstein wrote that global warming is “a ticking time bomb that President-elect Barack Obama can’t avoid,” and that “global warming is accelerating.”

Deming, in an interview, took issue with Borenstein’s characterization of a problem he says doesn’t exist.

“He says global warming is accelerating. Not only is it continuing, it’s accelerating, and whether it’s continuing that was completely beyond the evidence,” Deming told FOXNews.com

“The mean global temperature, at least as measured by satellite, is now the same as it was in the year 1980. In the last couple of years sea level has stopped rising. Hurricane and cyclone activity in the northern hemisphere is at a 24-year low and sea ice globally is also the same as it was in 1980.”

Deming said the article is further evidence of the media’s decision to talk about global warming as fact, despite what he says is a lack of evidence.

“Reporters, as I understand reporters, are supposed to report facts,”Deming said. “What he’s doing here is he’s writing a polemic and reporting it as fact, and that’s not right. It’s not reporting. It’s propaganda.

“This reads like a press release for an environmental advocacy group like Greenpeace. It’s not fair and balanced.”

A spokesman for the Associated Press said that the news agency stands by its story. “It’s a news story, based on fact and the clearly expressed views of President-elect Barack Obama and others,” spokesman Paul Colford told FOXNews.com in an e-mail.

Michael R. Fox, a retired nuclear scientist and chemistry professor from the University of Idaho, is another academic who found serious flaws with the AP story’s approach to the issue.

“There’s very little that’s right about it,” Fox said. “And it’s really harmful to the United States because people like this Borenstein working for AP have an enormous impact on everyone, because AP sells their news service to a thousand news outlets.

“One guy like him can be very destructive and alarming. Yeah it’s freedom of speech, but its dishonest.”

Like Deming, Fox said global warming is not accelerating. “These kinds of temperatures cycle up and down and have been doing so for millions of years,” he said.

He said there is little evidence to believe that man-made carbon dioxide is causing temperature fluctuation. “It’s silly to lay it all on man-made carbon dioxide,” Fox said. “It was El Nino in 1998 that caused the big spike in global warming and little to do with carbon dioxide.”

Other factors, including sun spots, solar winds, variations in the solar magnetic field and solar irradiation, could all be affecting temperature changes, he said.

James O’Brien, an emeritus professor at Florida State University who studies climate variability and the oceans, said that global climate change is very important for the country and that Americans need to make sure they have the right answers for policy decisions. But he said he worries that scientists and policymakers are rushing to make changes based on bad science.

“Global climate change is occurring in many places in the world,” O’Brien said. “But everything that’s attributed to global warming, almost none of it is global warming.”

He took issue with the AP article’s assertion that melting Arctic ice will cause global sea levels to rise.

“When the Arctic Ocean ice melts, it never raises sea level because floating ice is floating ice, because it’s displacing water,” O’Brien said. “When the ice melts, sea level actually goes down.

“I call it a fourth grade science experiment. Take a glass, put some ice in it. Put water in it. Mark level where water is. Let it met. After the ice melts, the sea level didn’t go up in your glass of water. It’s called the Archimedes Principle.”

He called sea level changes a “major scare tactic used by the global warming people.”

O’Brien said he doesn’t discount the potential effects man is having on the environment, but he cautioned that government should not make hasty decisions.

“There is no question that the Obama administration is green and I’m green, and there’s no question that they’re going to really take a careful look at what we need to do and attack problems, and I applaud that,” O’Brien said.

“But I’m really concerned that they’re going to spend all the money on implementation of mitigation, rather than supporting the science.”

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17 Responses to “Told you it was a tax scam”

  1. Sun Wukong Says:

    That you are obviously a simplistic American Idiot, is evidential alone from reading your blog. Surfinsandyeggo.

    Want me to ‘prove’ it, hmm? “Hola!”

    P.s.: Real Intelligence must be challenged to awaken and express the force of intelligence within, ya know? DO challenge!

  2. Anonymous Says:

    as far as the global warming..

    one, it is true,

    two, it isn’t man-made and in fact, we have very litle influence on the global warming..rather than go back and forth..one of THE most compelling cases is Mars..

    scientists state that for the past 100 years, mars has seen a global warming trend nearly identical to the earth..hmm, do our CO2 gases have any influence on the mars climate? Co2 has less impact than 2 other gases..water vapor constitutes over 95% of the greenhouse influence..second most is methane..WAY down in influence is carbon dioxide.

  3. Anonymous Says:

    as far as the global warming..

    one, it is true,

    two, it isn’t man-made and in fact, we have very litle influence on the global warming..

    rather than go back and forth..one of THE most compelling cases is Mars..scientists state that for the past 100 years, mars has seen a global warming trend nearly identical to the earth..hmm, do our CO2 gases have any influence on the mars climate? Co2 has less impact than 2 other gases..water vapor constitutes over 95% of the greenhouse influence..second most is methane..WAY down in influence is carbon dioxide.

  4. Anonymous Says:

    as far as the global warming..

    one, it is true,

    two, it isn’t man-made

    and in fact, we have very litle influence on the global warming..rather than go back and forth..one of THE most compelling cases is Mars..scientists state that for the past 100 years, mars has seen a global warming trend nearly identical to the earth..hmm, do our CO2 gases have any influence on the mars climate? Co2 has less impact than 2 other gases..water vapor constitutes over 95% of the greenhouse influence..second most is methane..WAY down in influence is carbon dioxide.

  5. kathleen p Says:

    the day will come, when people will wish they had used their head, and prepared.. thats all I’m gonna say.

  6. Sun Wukong Says:

    Ahh, A Nazi then, hmm? Relax boy Monkey, I was just messing with you on that one!
    Certainly I read most of your blogs already. Who do you think I am, hmm? Do you remember what I said about the double agents and the hired propagandists who do nothing other than spread false conspiracies simply to cover the real existing ones, you know People such as Rush and Jones, hmm?
    And not to mention, a number of seemly individuals here and elsewhere online. After all the UI.S. government employes over 4 Million little agents, hmm? Not to mention the other 4 Millions employed by semi-private Organizations.

    Hmm.. Too bad Door32, your choice now means unfortunately that mankind in fact will never come to know, why things happend, when it happens!!
    Isn’t it sad, how man always, when he has every possible choice, always only choose ego and greed??

    I shall end the “Game” with you here now! Come play with me sometimes if you like. but KNOW that I am now forever forbidden, ever again to give the choice to KNOW far more about this topic. sad..

    sayonara,Door32 and arrigato for the “fun”.
    Talk to you again in latest 6 months! πŸ˜€

  7. Door32 Says:

    If you had bothered to look around here you would have found a nice little blog right up your street, about Zionists and the New World Order. You chose to to dive in with two feet though didn’t you mate. So no thankyou. If you have something to say about climate change that can educate the world then please do a blog on it for all your friends to read and applaud

  8. Sun Wukong Says:

    Ahh.. is that so? Hmm.. Well then the other highly possible option to that would be , you are in fact an Israeli Con, n’est pas?
    Would make a lot of “common sense” too, you know, hmm?
    Not that I haven’t actually figured out who you are, but as I said I like good “Games”; fun fun fun Monkey fun πŸ˜€

    But now, tell me are you willing to continue the re-education debate – and, what naturally happens during a debate, the exchange of authentic knowledges – about man-induced Global Climate Change or not, hmm?
    Really dummy, I offer you and all your readers here the unique opportunity to learn a different and most important perspective.
    Your CHOICE alone! πŸ™‚

  9. Door32 Says:

    LMAO
    You plonker!
    You think I’m an American Con
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  10. Sun Wukong Says:

    My My, Door32, why is it so hard for some of you American people to SIMPLY acknowledge that you are in fact incapable of comprehending most science related to the man-induced climate changes we are experiencing, but instead you simply decide like a spoiled brat to just ignore it as not existing or fallacious simple because you are incapable of understanding things that require cognitive ability instead of a fake “believe”? Peculiar people, do you enjoy lying to yourselves that much, hmm? Makes you feel good to remain blind to things that are bad, hmm? Ignore and then it will not happen any more, hmm?

    Well then shall we start the re-education of some dumbed down Americans, hmm?

    You said: “ Funny how the tax for global warming became the tax for climate change when the world started getting colder again”

    Hmm..Are we talking the carbon taxes here or are we talking about the realities of man-induced Global Climate Change?? You will have to make up your mind on that, since both are two completely different topics. That the Carbon tax could just become another Rip-off of the ‘We, the People” to fill the empty budgets and satisfy some investors is undeniable, but that it could and will be enhance is unquestionable either! And that Al Gore is just the front celebrity (the American Way of getting things done, ya know!), and not a scientist, who can conclusively explain what is happening is evidential as well, but most scientist are on the path anyway. Different story!

    I will take it from your simplistic formulation that your problem with understanding the gravity of man-induced Global Climate Change is, that the colder winters and springs confuses you, since you thing warming means literary constant and continuous higher warming all over the Land masses, Oceans , the World and throughout all seasons?
    Well, you apparently do not know much about the properties of whether water nor CO2 or any of the other gases we are pumping into the Atmosphere, not about the regulation of our climate through the Oceanic biodiversity and variations of CO2 exchange or that CO2 -loose- naturally only appears in nature in the tiniest amount while we are pumping tons up daily nor about the direct constellation of all that to the melting poles to ocean warm up and rising water levels? And most important. Do you know, that throughout most of Earth’s atmosphere carbon dioxide IS the main determining factor for changes in the radiation flux, which then if certain (man-made) conditions are a given, lead to even more releases of oceanic CO2 – dissolved in the water, but in majority normally in carbonate compounds – into the atmosphere? Then you certainly don’t know that most of those toxics we pump in the atmosphere are not only severely risky not only for our all health but for every material we today use? Well, I thought so. Observe more houses falling apart without any other forces or how dangerous air travels (flying) at some certain times will become, due to fast changing temperatures of estimated 60 degree within, Minutes. coming down like a rock because of thick layers of ice in every moving parts, hmm?
    Seriously now Achi Door32, I am able to explain it all to you all as simple as possible, IF you are willing to listen and debate it, hmm?

    And by the way “Achi”, don’t you realize that I know the“game’ of silly conservatives likes of you just too well already, hmm? Remember, we have met many times before in the past in many places. The likes of you are like an open book to me, by now.
    You might have thought I would not realize that you are only attempting to tie me down with what is actually pretty evidential to even the dumbest fool on Earth, while you delete the far more interesting conversation we could be having about your “obama Deception” entry, hmm? yahoo deleted? You know what? I will simply quickly formulate a blog about conservative humans deception myself. What do you think of that, hmm?

  11. Door32 Says:

    Oh dear
    I will give you the option of deleting your nonesence if you like but I only offer once. Otherwise it has to stay
    Funny how the tax for global warming became the tax for climate change when the world started getting colder again
    Keep believing the propoganda chief, and please don’t try to set yourself up as being able to make your statements without backing them up. It makes you sound like Al Bore and his CO2 causes warming, even though his own graph showed CO2 rising 800 years behind temperature. “Hey do they ever fit together ?”. The relationship “is complicated” he said as he diverted peoples attention

  12. Sun Wukong Says:

    Keep laughing little big man, while you delete other comments that shows the nonsenses you made-up here. It just will not work very well with me.

    So are you able to deliver Deming’s paper evidences and mathetical calculations, hmm Dorr32? Then we can continue our little “game” in a far more educated and scientifical way, hmm?
    Otherwise there is little for me to disprove, n’est pas? But the more severity of weather patterns for you all to expirience then soon too, little Monkey.

  13. Door32 Says:

    LMFAO
    I hope people that know who I am read your comment, cos you just made an arse of yourself. You clearly just popped in and didn’t look very closely at where you were.
    Thanks for the laugh and keep taking the tablets

  14. Sun Wukong Says:

    Please watch your heart old white men. And don’t worry your head too much for now. I will be back in the summer, then my dear old “I-hate-myself-so-much-that-all-I-wish-for-is-destruction” foe, we will talk again about man-induced global climate change.
    But I would actually say, that would only be, if you are able to survive even that long.
    Please survive, little wann-be chosen by god Monkey, will you hmm? I truly wish none of wish you no harm. Just, a lesson about Life, Nature and some truly very “special” people, you do not even know they existed!

    Regards… I will be back in 6 months, Then, you will be the one who wants to talk tacheles about man-induced Global Climate Change and what to do! Oh but sure, THAT is for certain as an “Amen” already. πŸ™‚

  15. Sun Wukong Says:

    My my , would conservative America ever be able to GROW a brain of its own?! Never going to happen!
    Intruiging that all you diod is throw one of my own qeustions back at me as an argument. Whooo.. what a clever that his derriere little Monkey. Lerned to floss yet from Mommy, hmm?\
    Ahh Do you see now how easy it was to find the “bad cop and the double agent”, hmm Achi? I KNOW now that it is, YOU! πŸ™‚

    Hahaha! You fanatics conservative “Judea-Christians” are soo easy to read and very easy to direct!!

    Oh boy, I am going to have a ton of fun in the U.S.
    That is certain already!

    Regards, Achi, hmm?

    Oh by the way you know me already as I alreadsy know who you were since some times now.
    I am know also as SwordOfDamocles1, or short, SoD1!

  16. Door32 Says:

    You kind of talked yourself into a corner there didn’t you. ConsideringFox News over the last 6 or 7 years have only ever put the global warming side of the argument, the bad science Al Gore “the debate is over” side, because it is the agenda of their paymasters. This is one of the rare occasions they have thrown something in to hold onto their “Fair and Balanced” slogan. about 7 of these in 7 years. Hmmm I think you can safely say it isn’t their agenda.

    Try doing a little research of your own instead of listening to propoganda and you won’t find a scientist in the ice study area who agrees with the propoganda of Al Gore. If you want to tracked everywhere in everything you do so you can be carbon taxed then just go along with the propoganda and don’t worry about the sun’s 60 year cycle

    Fuckwit

  17. Sun Wukong Says:

    You know something, hmm? I have always like the “game”, bad cop, good cop a lot! Or the “double agents” cases. The most intriguing thing about such ‘games” are to figure out who the bad cop is and the double agent.

    So let start my little game shall we, hmm?
    A.) Why did Deming told ONLY FOXNews his research findings?
    B.) Can Deming deliver the paper evidences, mathetical calculations ect. for the things he says, hmm??? (Really If he would, I will gladly look into it for all of you here and explain his fallacious results and why they are in fact complete WRONG, hmm? Deal?
    c.)I found it funny that Mr. Deming is saying there is a “lack of evidences” Hmm.. So so? Really? I wonder what would be evidence ENOUGH for Mr. Deming, do you too, hmm?
    I wonder where he lives. Any one knows in which State, which City? And even more I wonder if Mr. Deming would consider it evidence enough when the next Storm blows his lieing ass, his family and his house away- POOF- away, hmm?
    Or when he dies violently in a flood floating buttom-up in a sea of fecal matter? Which would you prefer to ‘chose’ for Mr. Deming, hmm Monsieur Door32? I’ll let Achi Jesi know!
    D.) Why would the media – primareliy the U.S. Media – all of a sudden decide to talk about global warming as a “fact”, IF they in fact never talked FACTS about anything that is of most importance?
    E.) ANY ONE, and I will repeat that, ANY ONE, who beleive this to be any factual: ” In the last couple of years sea level has stopped rising. Hurricane and cyclone activity in the northern hemisphere is at a 24-year low and sea ice globally is also the same as it was in 1980″(~ Mr. DEMENTI) IS an ignorant, self-deceiving alone, know-nothing that probably wouldn’t even hear or see a train coming at him with full crash and loud horns, until he lies dead under the same train. On WHAT Planet is Mr. Dementi living, say hmm? Hahaha, liars, liars, I’m loving that unique human “vice”!
    F> Was Mr. Dementia truly saying this to FOX? “Reporters, as I understand reporters, are supposed to report facts,”Deming said. “What he’s doing here is he’s writing a polemic and reporting it as fact, and that’s not right. It’s not reporting. It’s propaganda.” Man that dude is a comedian ala Rush Limbaug, No wonder he ends up only on FOXNOise, n’est pas Monsieur hmm? Hahaha! You folks are truly comical.

    He, know what hmm? TRY your very best to survive alone THIS summer, hmm? We will talk again after that about this again.
    Promised! I will be back then, to ridicule ALL of you, for your evidentially infinite stupidity!

    Lovely Day Door32, hmm?

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